Charlotte's got her first kill!/My FoST killed a Corvette Tonight!

"K-Roll-PorscheTamer" (k-roll390) 05/23/2014 at 00:27 • Filed to: Focus ST

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My ST killed a V8 American Car!!

I was driving home from one of my usual meets on Woodward, when a C4 Vette pulled next to me at the light, with two bros inside, calling out my 4-banger and whatnot; so I gave in to my inner hoon.

Numbers-wise the Vette was better in every way, didn't matter what year, each had more torque than my FoST.

I'd never done a proper stoplight comparative driving moment too, I was very nervous, yet I knew I'd be fine. No cars were around when we did this, so the only potential civilian casualties would be myself and the Vette Bros. I put Charlotte in sport mode and held the revs at 2000 rpm. The light turned green, the clutch was released, and there was much wheel spin from both cars as we inched forward, but I inched faster and banged it into sencond, then third, then fourth! I had at least 2-2.5 car lengths between the two of us. When we got to the next light, the driver didn't even look at me, while his friend was still talking shit, so I did the smart thing, and rolled my window up and drove home! What a night it was for me! :)

I'll admit this was very irresponsible too, but so worth it, you can only do so much in a lifetime and I'm glad I did what I did! Have a 930 for my epic win Oppo!

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 00:29

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Its not racing, its comparative driving.

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 00:31

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Awesome! You sure it wasn't JayHawk!?!? And I love the name "Charlotte" for your car!

you were proving a point; its not irresponsible!

Soloburrito > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 00:33

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It's always the passengers...

Glad you were able to have some fun relatively safely.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif 05/23/2014 at 00:33

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I like your term better, it sounds more professional. Mind if I change it to that? :)

Burrito de EJ25 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 00:33

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I beat a new Nissan Altima to freeway lane merger from an onramp stop light in my WRX.

:(

Mine is a lot less impressive. But he was really giving it the full beans!

Also, I don't think any of us actually went above the speed limit (65 MPH). There was rush hour ahead of us.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 05/23/2014 at 00:36

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Does this JayHawk live in Michigan and own a greyish C4 Vette?

And Thanks! Charlotte was the first name that came to me when I first saw her; very elegant and yet aggressive at the same time! :)

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 00:37

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Nope! His is red. Damn. he just got the thing and loves the car!

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 05/23/2014 at 00:39

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It might have been red! I'm not sure as it was quite dark out(Well it was night time :P) He doesn't live in Michigan?

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 00:43

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Oh no! Nevermind! Would've been funny though

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 05/23/2014 at 00:46

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A very funny/awkward first meeting of Opponauts indeed. :P

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 00:46

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I did this once in my girlfriends dad's E36 328i (sorry sir) against a FWD Impala with the 5.3 V8. Little shit was talking shit about my "Euro-trash car", revving his truck motor. Dropped the E36 in Sport mode (auto) waited for the light to turn green and smoked that little shit. Wouldn't even look over at the next light. Girlfriend wasn't too pleased...

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/23/2014 at 00:50

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NICE JOB!! :D

Surprisingly, my only question, is what was the GF's response?

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 00:52

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ARE YOU SRUPID LOGAN? WHAT IF WE WOULD'VE CRASHED OR THERE WAS A COP?

There was some more yelling after that, but I kinda toned her out...

Jayhawk Jake > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 05/23/2014 at 00:53

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You're thining of JayZEighty8. I don't have a corvette...yet

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/23/2014 at 00:54

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Just what I expected haha! I hope all was well after that. :P

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > Jayhawk Jake 05/23/2014 at 00:54

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Oh shit! Your right! Your names! The first bit is so damn similar! Sorry!

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 00:56

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All was fine after I bought her dinner and we saw a movie.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/23/2014 at 01:17

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Nice! :)

Garrett Davis > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 01:20

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Other than embarrassing a ricer Civic getting on the freeway, no one has really payed much attention to my ST. Yours sounds particularly satisfying since they were talking so much shit though. I would have loved to see that.

MrCrash > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 01:22

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Congrats on the win! My first "comparative drive" was against a C4 convertible. They don't take well to losing. The driver of the one I went against kept 10+ car lengths between us after he couldn't keep up with a full size truck, and even stopped at a green light to keep up the spacing.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Garrett Davis 05/23/2014 at 01:39

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It was a good one I think. The ST's really are sleepers if you don't know much about them. :P

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > MrCrash 05/23/2014 at 01:40

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He just couldn't accept the loss could he.. :P

wiffleballtony > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 01:57

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Not surprising, C4s are garbage. Considering its likely that he had the entry motor which produces roughly what yours makes, but that was 20 years ago or so. And he had dead weight passenger. Good work regardless.

offroadkarter > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 02:24

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I was expecting you to be like "Yeah killed a ZR1 tonight" haha, a C4 thats totally plausible those things are slow as dog shit.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > offroadkarter 05/23/2014 at 02:28

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Are they heavy or something? What's wrong with them?

offroadkarter > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 02:42

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they are way under powered. the TPI cars made 230hp, from a 5.7L V8

"it was the 80's"

Spoonman929RR > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 04:41

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This makes me happy.

spanfucker retire bitch > Garrett Davis 05/23/2014 at 07:17

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Man, embarrassing ricer Civics is easy. Hell, I was able to do that in my bone stock Mazda3 iTouring with the 2.0L SkyActiv engine.

It was the funniest damn thing.

Alex B > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 07:42

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I thought you actually crashed into a corvette. =P

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 07:49

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One thing I have learned in stoplight racing is that the turbo'd/supercharged car always beats out a v8 there aint a lot of space between stoplights so that quick start counts for a lot. Good Job.

rotundapig > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 08:23

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I was in Detroit his past week for work and I spotted about 3x as many Focus STs as I would have at home, I reckon. Does it seem to you that they are extra popular in Detroit?

WolfmanJimCBW > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 08:26

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My Miata was named Bella. I miss her so much.

crowmolly > offroadkarter 05/23/2014 at 08:52

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They are also geared like shit, with the exception of first gear in the 700R4. Rear axle in an '87 auto is a 2.59. Car was built for a good 0-60.

crowmolly > wiffleballtony 05/23/2014 at 08:54

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Depends on the year. The LT1 cars are pretty strong performers.

But, say, 87 and down and the cars are dogs. Quarter mile in 15.1.

But to the OP, congrats on the win! I don't mean to diminish your victory.

BJ > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 08:57

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I once did a "comparative driving" session in my Dodge Aries K sedan against an older Porsche, and totally spanked him. FWD FTW!

It was winter and the roads were quite icy. Also, he may not actually have been trying to race me.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif 05/23/2014 at 09:00

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Ha! Try explaining that one to the cops...

JGrabowMSt > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 09:21

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not bad. The HEMI Wagon actually hasnt gotten any attention. Come to NJ and Ill give you a challenge. I only get attention going down on ramps because 'wagons shouldnt make such nice noises and move at such an alarming rate of speed.'

dear lord that CAI makes quite the noise giving it the beans.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > JGrabowMSt 05/23/2014 at 09:31

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You must make a video/sound clip! :)

I want to here ze gorgeous noises.

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 10:07

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Go right ahead. I believe Tim Allen in Home Improvement said it.

Chteelers > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 10:47

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I am surprised at everyone's reaction here. If you got into 4th gear you had to have been close to 100 mph. Stop racing on city streets. Go find an autocross.

oldestyoungn > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 10:53

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It's beautiful.

yamahog > rotundapig 05/23/2014 at 10:54

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Employee/friends/family discounts run rampant and the Big 3 loyalties run deeper here, so you'll see a lot more Big 3 cars in general.

JGrabowMSt > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 11:04

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K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Chteelers 05/23/2014 at 11:53

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I didn't even get close to 100mph. The fastest I went was 70 in fourth. I'm not that stupid to do 100 in a 50 if that's what you're saying.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > JGrabowMSt 05/23/2014 at 11:55

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That is just perfect. I like this gif. I will be waiting!

Garrett Davis > spanfucker retire bitch 05/23/2014 at 12:20

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Normally I wouldn't bother, but this guy had every Autozone stick on chrome accessory possible, was revving his insanely loud exhaust like crazy, and rolling back and forth on the clutch, just asking for it to burn out on him. So I pulled into second nice and easy to give him a head start and then let the boost build and blasted by him easily.

After that he hung way back, embarrassed.

spanfucker retire bitch > Garrett Davis 05/23/2014 at 12:32

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Mine isn't even that exciting. It was a Civic from the mid 90's, all the logos taken off and a fart can installed. If there other "mods" he made, I didn't notice them. He must have thought I was trying to show him up when I zoomed by him on the freeway - but I just love WOT'ing it (as much as I can in a Mazda3) on the straight-away on ramp. He passed me a little while later and we both got off the same exit.

We came to a stop light and I could tell he was eyeing me up - I have no idea why. Not like I have even a fast vehicle, it's not like it was a Mazdaspeed 3 or anything. When it went green, he "gunned it" for as much as his vehicle could. When I realized he was actually trying to stop-light race me, I just hit the accelerator and zoomed past him.

It's pretty sad when a bone-stock economy vehicle is capable of so easily upstaging you. But, I got a damn good laugh out of it. As did my roommate.

Garrett Davis > spanfucker retire bitch 05/23/2014 at 12:34

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I will never understand why these people think these cars are fast. Seriously, I don't even consider my ST to be "fast", just quick for what it is. Have these people just never driven an actual fast car?

spanfucker retire bitch > Garrett Davis 05/23/2014 at 12:36

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They've probably never even seen an actual fast car. Or even a moderately quick one. The least they can do is buy a hot-hatch or something and play pretend. But they don't. They just put a fart-can on a Civic (not even the Si version) and call it a day.

It's amusing as fuck though when you can so lackadaisically beat them. I didn't have to go above the speed limit to do it.

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 16:19

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*I was driving home from one of my usual meets in Mexico, when a C4.....

There, I fixed it :P

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs 05/23/2014 at 16:21

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Why Mexico? I don't understand..

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/23/2014 at 17:20

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Because it's likely outside of the jurisdiction in which you currently reside. It's just a running joke "I drove down to Mexico and found out my speed limiter at 143 mph". First time I saw this I was like, wtf, you are in Wisconsin. Then it started dawning on me that it's just some people that didn't want to incriminate themselves.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs 05/23/2014 at 17:23

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Clever..

TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/24/2014 at 06:13

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Ah yes, the 328i. I remember an Old Top Gear video on it. Here (excuse the afro):

TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/24/2014 at 10:18

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My family have had similar experiences, with a theory borrowed from the first few chapters of Initial D - that theory being that you will be faster if you know the road well and the other driver is incompetent.

The road being this . It's not very long, just a few hundred metres in length, but is steep. At night, that part of the road is completely clear. The tarmac before the ascent is severely potholed - it's bumpier than it looks on Google Maps since that's an old image. What's also not visible is that there are tall buildings on either side of the road, those were built after the Google Car went past. This will come relevant later.

On two occasions, we were being followed by a supercar - the first an F430 Spider and the second a Gallardo. They followed us along the tramline (you can see that when you go back on the map) when there was trams on it, so they couldn't pass. On both occasions they were tailgating our Cooper S, thinking they could intimidate us.

Swinging up that road, the second we pass the pedestrian crossing, my dad drops a few cogs and absolutely floors it. The Mini's response is immediate (because supercharger) and we leap away like a flea. We swerve past the bumpy part, which both supercars hit and they falter. As we shoot up the road, they are unable to keep up because they don't know how to operate their paddle shifters - these rich people always leave it in automatic. I know they are trying to accelerate, because the sound of their engines are ricocheting off the walls of the buildings on either side of the road. I can also hear their revs drop when they hit the potholed part. By the top, we've already hit 100kph and they're still at the halfway point. And on both occasions there were at least two people in the car and heavy items in the boot. There were some damaged egos lying in bed that night...

blacktruck18 > wiffleballtony 05/28/2014 at 12:38

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Not trying to argue, and I do agree early c4's are garbage. But as crowmolly said the LT1 cars are pretty quick, and the Lt4's are even better. My 96 ran 13.5's-13.7's in the quarter bone stock and almost 20 years old. I definitely wouldn't call that garbage.

blacktruck18 > crowmolly 05/28/2014 at 12:47

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The "base" was a 2.59, which made for great highway mileage. But there was also an option for, I think, a 3.45 ratio. Which really woke up the automatics.

PTK64 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 05/28/2014 at 13:42

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Strangely enough, I have a 1996 C4 LT1, unmodified, (rated 300hp, 300lbft) as well as a 2013 Focus ST. I've 1/4 mile'd the C4 a couple of dozen runs, and it will do 14.0 s @ 100 mph pretty consistently (auto trans - no drama). I've never run the ST down a track, but the magazine numbers would suggest it's a few tenths slower. But on any given day, I'm pretty sure the ST could smoke an older C4, and even one like mine with a slightly inattentive driver.

I did recently have a comparative drive moment in the ST with a fellow in a new BMW535. I think he was ... surprised when I got a hood length on him at launch and then held it through 1st and 2nd (don't recall if I into 3rd) until we had to slow for the next light. I find the most difficult thing about the ST is to shift out of 1st quickly enough not to bang the rev limiter.

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